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AOMrecord, AOMproxy => AOMrecord and AOMproxy (English) => Thema gestartet von: tccieslak am September 23, 2007, 21:17:59

Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: tccieslak am September 23, 2007, 21:17:59
I would like to recommend that AOMRecord be upgraded to allow access to http://www.slacker.com (http://www.slacker.com)an Internet radio station that I think is very nice and provides a vast amount of music.  Slacker.com allows you to create virtual playlists of artists or similar artists you like and will try to play those songs.  You can also build a virtual radio station that allows you to play a custom list of songs/artists that you would like to hear and no other music.  This customizing ability of the music coupled with the power and flexibility of AOMRecord would make a really dynamic ability.  I would like to see AOMRecord pick up the Artist and Song title information like it does now for AOL Radio and selected other stations.

I find AOMRecord to be one of the simplest to use recording tools for Internet music and also one of the most reliable and accurate.  Adding Slacker.com would be a great addition to its capabilities.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am September 24, 2007, 14:18:18
OK, I did it.

Please follow these steps:

- Rename MSIE.ini in AOMrecord's program folder to MSIE.ini.old.
- Download the file http://aomrecord.com/updates/MSIE.ini into the same folder.

Try AOMrecord and let me know if it works.

Thomas

BTW, you should use the latest version (2.3.565). Otherwise it won't work.

P.S. Could you please use a real name, too?
Titel: Test of new MSIE.INI
Beitrag von: tccieslak am September 24, 2007, 20:56:48
I did as you said then started slacker.com, then I started AOMRecord, checked the recording levels and then told AOMRecord to start recording on the Next song but nothing ever happened.  Also when I started AOMRecord my volume went very low and when I tried to raise the volume through the Windows volume control it would just reset to the previously level after I moved the slider up.  I am using the version of AOMRecord you quoted in your posting.

What folder will be used to store the newly recorded songs?  I did not see Slacker.com in the drop down list of stations you would start via AOMRecord so that's why I started it separately.  Also I noticed the MSIE.INI you sent was about 9K and the old one was about 11K, I don't know if that means anything but thought I'd mention it.

I then renamed the new version of MSIE.INI and renamed the .old version to the original and started AOMRecord and now the same problem happens with the volume control, the volume goes very low on startup and if I try to raise the volume via the Windows slider it automatically resets itself to the low volume level.  If I stop AOMRecord, the volume control returns to its normal capabilities.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am September 25, 2007, 00:54:55
Could it be that you didn't check the box Get media data from provider on the first page of AOMrecord?
Titel: Slacker.Com now working
Beitrag von: tccieslak am September 25, 2007, 01:34:38
I tried it again, only this time I started Slacker.com first and then AOMRecord and it popped up a little window asking me to pick settings from another station I've used, I chose AOL and up it came running like a champ although I had to play with the Pause Recognition a little.  Another thing I did is start Slacker in the real Internet Explorer, last time I was using the AOL browser.  The problem with the volume control also went away.  I'll try it again later with the AOL browser and see if the volume control problem returns.  Other than that, it seems to be working as well as it does with AOL Radio.

This is truly an elegant piece of software and I've been in the computer industry for over 35 years.  Thanks.
Titel: AOL Browser
Beitrag von: tccieslak am September 26, 2007, 22:23:10
I had a chance to try Slacker.com with the AOL browser and sure enough, when AOMRecord starts after starting slacer.com in AOL the volume goes very low and if you try to raise the Windows volume control it will reset itself to the previous level as soon as you release the left button on the mouse.  It works just fine using Windows Internet browser.

Another question is, I usually use the Windows volume control to lower the volume as low as it will go and click the mute button to record for hours especially overnight.  Sometimes when AOMRecord ends because I had set the number of minutes to record, it will turn off the mute option and raise the volume which is not normally a problem unless it's like 4AM and then slacker.com starts blaring away.  is there any reason AOMRecord does this volume reset?
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am September 27, 2007, 12:44:14
When Use saved mixer settings at start of AOMrecord is checked AOMrecord remembers the mixer settings it finds when it is launched. It resets the mixer settings to these values when it quits. If you don't want this behaviour uncheck this box or launch AOMrecord after setting the mixer.

Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am November 10, 2007, 23:33:59
Hello Thomas. First of all congrats for your soft.
Could it be possible to add the ability of Aomrecord to get the metadata of any of those radio services : Sirius web radio, Realnetworks "Realpass", Realnetworks "Realmusic" , eko.fr ?

Being able to get that data for Aol Radio or Live365 is what makes all the
difference between your soft and the others who do the same job capturing sounds passing through the sound cards, but the sound quality delivered by those two services are only 64kb.

Aomrecord can do the job with Y! Launchcast but unfortunatly here in Europe we can't get the high bitrate that is reserved to US subscribers.
By the way Thomas, i've read other posts with screen captures suggesting that you're a subscriber of Yahoo Launcast Plus. How do you that being
a resident of Germany?
Thank you for your answer.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am November 11, 2007, 00:34:00
Hello Ice Tea,

Please give me your real name (makes things a bit easier).

I'm just looking around if I can adopt these stations. Could you please provide me with their URLs?

About Y!LAunchcast etc.: There are some tricks to do things like that. I'll write some more about this in my next newsletter. If you are a subscriber you'll soon get some more infos... If you are a bit familiar with computing think about using a free proxy server in the USA. That'll make it.

BTW, AOL is 128 kBit if you're a AOL customer.

Hope to hear from you.

Good night
Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am November 11, 2007, 11:07:06
Thank you for taking time to answer, but i can tell you that Aol Radio is
broadcasted in AACPlus 64kb, i've read many documents about it in forums and also in Aol announcements. Sometime ago there was a high quality stream at 64kb for Aol subscribers and a low one at 32kb for the others.
Now there's only a single one at 64kb for everyone, all you need is a AIM
account, which anybody can get.
That service is great but i'd prefer a higher bitrate, knowing that there's additionnal quality loss with the digital=>analog=>digital conversion.
That why i asked you for Eko and Sirius for example who broadcast at 128kb.

Thanks again for your time.
Alexandre.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am November 11, 2007, 11:23:09
I forgot about the urls; here they are :
Realnetworks "RadioPass" =>http://radio.real.com

Realnetworks "Realmusic"=> http://de.real.com/music/premium/radio
                             or =>   http://france.real.com/music/premium/radio

Sirius Internet Radio        =>http://www.sirius.com/siriusinternetradio

Eko radio => www.eko.fr
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am November 11, 2007, 12:01:14
Hello Alexandre,

I can adapt the Sirius stuff, but they don't supply information about the album and there's no cover image, is that correct? I'll publish the new configuration with the next update.

About Real: Is this the stuff that uses the Real player? Haven't had a look at this yet.

eko.fr: I can't do that.

Have nice day
Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am November 11, 2007, 13:04:57
Thanks for the fast answer, for Sirius missing the album name is not a big deal. It's a nice 128kb subscription; it would be great to have it supported by
Aomrecord.
You're right about the two Realnetwork subscriptions, they play through Realplayer, i hope it's not a problem. The "Realradio" one can be accessed
worldwide, the "Realmusic" one is adapted to each country but i guess if you
can get it to work in Germany i'll also be able to do so in my country.

Bye.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: letti001 am November 20, 2007, 04:43:55
Zitat von: "Thomas"Hello Alexandre,

I can adapt the Sirius stuff, but they don't supply information about the album and there's no cover image, is that correct? I'll publish the new configuration with the next update.

About Real: Is this the stuff that uses the Real player? Haven't had a look at this yet.

eko.fr: I can't do that.

Have nice day
Thomas

Hey, I could go for some Sirius too. I have it in my car and am getting used to it a bit.  I really miss the Acoustic Rock station from AOL but the Sirius Coffeehouse is pretty close.

Also, did you see the Radio@AOL beta version. They seem to be on the verge of a big change.

Sal
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am November 30, 2007, 19:56:00
Hello Thomas, i've tried the new beta version; works great.
Just a couple of questions: do you plan to add a solution to record
Sirius and the Realnetworks stations i told you some days ago ?

Now each recorded song has also cover in the output folder.
Is it possible to disable that feature; i'm not interested and erasing
those is a loss of time.

With Aomplayer we can launch Yahoo radio but it's useless since the
european versions have a such a low bitrate. Could you give us your
trick to access the us version, all my efforts with free us proxies failed.

Moreover could you tell us if there's a difference of quality between
"Aol radio" and "Yahoo Launchcast", if not : no need to loose time
with Yahoo!!

Alexandre.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am Dezember 01, 2007, 13:18:58
Hi Alexandre,

Sirius should work already with version 2.4. Please try and give some feedback.

Real Player: I haven't had the time to look into this. Looks like some work ;-).

Y!LAUNCHcast: If you try via Tor you should get a better quality and should be able to subscribe to the PLUS version which has really good quality. Very few free proxies work with US stations because they filter too many information and their bit rate is too low.

I'm thinking about installing a proxy for US access for AOMrecord users only. Pricing would be around 2 to 5 € per month. Interested?

Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am Dezember 02, 2007, 16:37:48
Hello, that's me again !
You say that you can access Launchcast Plus with Tor, but Tor uses
Firefox and the yahoo radio player only works with internet explorer !

I'll soon try Sirius and i'll tell about the result.

You did not answer about the cover. Is it possible to disable that
feature?

Thanks for your time.

Alexandre.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am Dezember 02, 2007, 19:18:21
Hello Alexandre,

You can use Tor with MS IE as well. Have a look into my last newsletter. There I mention an address that tells what to do. It's Pandora related, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Again: I'm thinking about installing a proxy for US access for AOMrecord users only. Pricing would be around 2 to 5 € per month. Interested?

The collecting of covers cannot be disabled currently. But it's easy to delete them all. Just sort them appropriately in Explorer and delete them or search for all .jpg files and delete them. Nothing really time consuming.

Au revoir
Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am Mai 09, 2008, 18:27:49
Hello Thomas. There are two very interesting free streaming services in France : Deezer.com and the recently appeared  jiwafm.com. There is a geo localisation that can be defeated with a proxi.  Jiwa is great because it streams
everything at 192kb/ogg vorbis.  Those two sites have signed with record labels.
Do you think you could add the support for those services within Aomrecord?
Thank you.

Alexandre.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am Mai 11, 2008, 22:07:58
Hello Alexandre,

I've had a look at Deezer.com. Looks like a good station. I'll dive into this deeper in the next days.

Couldn't get to jiwafm.com. Do I understand you correctly that a proxy located in France is needed? If so, are you able to name one for testing?

CU Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am Mai 11, 2008, 23:49:30
Good evening, JiwaFm is like Deezer exept that the sound quality is greater.
Deezer's songs are uploaded by users whereas the catalog of Jiwa is
brought directly by the record companies.

There's no reason why you should not be able to access it, it's available around the world. The only think that is not allowed for non french is to choose and play songs but even from Germany you can use the radios (at the center of the screen "jiwa pop rock", Jiwa reggae"...).
If you can get Aomrecord to work with the radios it will work for the rest.
I hope you'll have the time to look at it because it's the next big thing in France.
The adress is www.jiwafm.fr and www.jiwafm.com.

Good night.

Alex.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am Mai 12, 2008, 00:24:25
Edit :perhaps you'll have to type those adresses in order to access the service :

http://www.jiwafm.fr/fr  or  http://www.jiwafm.fr/en

Bye.
Alex.
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Thomas am Mai 24, 2008, 16:26:01
Hi Alex,

I looked at these stations. In fact I'm not sure if I can work this out because they use a flash player. If you're the only one requesting this, I'm sorry to say that I can't afford this effort for a single person.

Regards Thomas
Titel: Suggestion-New Radio station capture ability
Beitrag von: Ice Tea am Mai 31, 2008, 23:04:59
Thanks a lot for having spent some of your time having a look at it !
I recommend highly those two sites; you can choose the songs you want to listen, make your own playlists and even listen to  personalized radios.

There are over one million songs proposed for free (and legal) streaming with Deezer and nearly 600 000 with Jiwafm ! Moreover with good bitrates.

There's a lot of buzz about them and i think you could attract new clients
if by chance one day they could be supported by Aomrecord.

Thanks again for your time and "auf wieder sehen" !

Alex.